okay though if there’s anything that struck me on rewatching the first Cap movie it’s how much Steve and Bucky are such assholes to each other and it’s amazing
and like can you just imagine recovered!Bucky and Steve going on missions together and Steve being like
"wow Buck that thing you did there was actually kind of smart, all the stupid must’ve grown out in your hair"
and Bucky being all
"you might not know this, Steve, but there’s this thing we say these days that might be really useful for you to know and it goes like this: go fuck yourself"
and all the other avengers looking at each other like we read about you in history books, you are national heroes, what even
Oh gosh, don’t feel bad, there are plenty of Americans who have never even heard of this.
The Winter Soldier Investigation was a 1971 veteran-organized media event intended to draw attention to the war crimes that had taken place in Vietnam. Directly inspired by the exposure of the My Lai Massacre (the mass murder of over five hundred unarmed civilians by American troops) in 1969, Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) brought together discharged servicemen from every branch of the military to discuss the atrocities they had seen and committed during their time in the war. They hoped bring these tragedies before the public eye, and to prove that American military policies led directly to the death and torment of civilians. Eventually a transcript from this conference made its way before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee during the Fullbright Hearings.
When Ed Brubaker, the author who wrote the original Winter Soldier arc, chose the name, he wanted something that would call up both cold Siberian winters and the atrocities of war. This fit the bill.
But the term itself, the idea of “winter soldiers”, was coined by VVAW as a response to the writings of Thomas Paine, who described the men who deserted at Valley Forge during the American Revolution:
These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country, but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.
A winter soldier is someone who will warm their hands over a meager fire and weather the cold. Someone who refuses to abandon their country and its potential, no matter what the personal cost.
So how’s that for a weird little twist? According to Thomas Paine—activist, political philosopher, and revolutionary—the real winter soldier is Captain America.
— the hour of the star, by clarice lispector
(Sebastian Stan talking about the Winter Soldier’s fighting style)
*dying whale noises*
Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow in Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Rather than bog down somebody else’s post with my dithering, I’m gonna
steal this gif andmake a fresh post.
STAGE COMBAT JAZZ AHOY!
Handful of things going on here worth noting:
- In my personal experience, knife fighting is HARD. It is SAVAGE. No other weapon left me more exhausted after a class, and for the handful of months we were learning a knife fight, my forearms were covered with bruises. The pay off was that little else has been as much fun.
- Don’t assume for a second that both of these guys aren’t padded very, VERY well under their clothes/bionic arms.
- In universe, however, Steve will probably not break a bone against Bucky’s arm. He’s protecting himself by deflecting Bucky’s punch—not stopping, but redirecting the motion. Notice how he’s swinging in toward the center with Bucky. He’s also using the inside of his forearm. THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY TO DO THIS. Never use the edge of your arm that runs from pinky to elbow to deflect things. There’s less flesh there, that’s how you break bones. Steve’s gonna have bruises, but his bones ought to be OK.
- The other rad thing I want to talk about is Bucky’s little grip flip toss. He’s going from standard grip to reverse or “icepick” grip. This looks rad, but it’s actually a pretty straightforward skill—that’s required in the certification test. Ten minutes of warm-up before knife class is tossing the knife from hand to hand and flipping the grip with a toss in BOTH HANDS. Dropping a knife mid-toss was worthy of some derision—and there was lots of derision, don’t get impressed.
- I would be curious to know if anyone who’s more familiar with Sebastian Stan’s face than I am can tell if that’s him or the fight double (here’s a still).
- What Steve can do to get out of this situation: Get control of Bucky’s arm while Bucky’s swing is outside of the center line of their bodies. Since he’s using the ice-pick grip, if Steve can get in close and brace his arm back while striking to disorient (head-butt, knee to the gut, knee to the crotch), that’d give him a beat to wrench Bucky’s wrist and get the knife away from him. The good news is, he’s got the knife in his fleshy, pain-feeling, vulnerable hand. Bucky’s got the upper hand with speed at the moment, so Steve has to be fast and he has to do it right the first time
- Just as a disclaimer, what I’m blathering about here is stage combat. I know very little that would serve as useful self-defense.